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	<title>Comments on: An Offering (while I dig out)</title>
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	<description>Education, technology, and everything in between</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeff O'Hara</title>
		<link>http://www.katesays.org/2008/05/07/an-offering-while-i-dig-out/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, I have been thinking about this topic a lot as of late.  We are on the fence with putting ads on edmodo.  We want to provide a free service but we have to pay the server bills somehow too.  We have some big ideas regarding this too :)

-Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, I have been thinking about this topic a lot as of late.  We are on the fence with putting ads on edmodo.  We want to provide a free service but we have to pay the server bills somehow too.  We have some big ideas regarding this too :)</p>
<p>-Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.katesays.org/2008/05/07/an-offering-while-i-dig-out/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marie - thanks for the input - the issue of education and monetary interests is such a loaded one, isn't it? I find it fascinating!

@Tim - You've added a lot to the discussion and I'm grateful for your take on this. Education IS a noble profession and the intensity online matches the dedication offline, so it would make sense that it transfers to the feelings re: advertising and "cheapening" their content. As with most things I write about, I truly do have an open mind and when I ask questions, I trully DO want input - I agree that gentle questioning benefits all. I'm always open to discussion and respectful dissent :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marie - thanks for the input - the issue of education and monetary interests is such a loaded one, isn&#8217;t it? I find it fascinating!</p>
<p>@Tim - You&#8217;ve added a lot to the discussion and I&#8217;m grateful for your take on this. Education IS a noble profession and the intensity online matches the dedication offline, so it would make sense that it transfers to the feelings re: advertising and &#8220;cheapening&#8221; their content. As with most things I write about, I truly do have an open mind and when I ask questions, I trully DO want input - I agree that gentle questioning benefits all. I&#8217;m always open to discussion and respectful dissent :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim (@Twalk) Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.katesays.org/2008/05/07/an-offering-while-i-dig-out/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim (@Twalk) Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Marie's comment above, and would expand on it by saying that, in my experience, many educators take a view similar to many clergy members: that their work would be cheapened if it were "about" money.

Intentionally or otherwise, most educators end up making less (or MUCH less) money than they would if they pursued careers in business, the other learned professions, etc. They know this. They are free enough from greed (or financial ambition, or however you want to put it) that it doesn't keep them from pursuing their careers as teachers, administrators, etc. And if they happen to end up in a job that does pay them handsomely, they and their peers regard it as a special reward for their hard work -- even when their supposedly princely income could be matched easily by a 28-year-old sales manager at a mid-sized company.

In this setting -- and considering the cultural insularity of the educational profession as a whole -- it's not surprising to me that you get reactions to advertisements that are so very much at odds with the routine practice of other parts of the professional blogosphere. In that bigger setting, it's well understood that if a blog doesn't have ads, that's a choice on the part of the blogger. (John Scalzi provides an example of this.) End of discussion. No moralizing.

My take, coming as someone who has just one finger in the pie of professional education: educators as a group will be well served to *learn* more from what you're doing here -- rather than moralize about it or react stereotypically to it.  We can ALL expand our ways of thinking about what the blogosphere means -- or can mean -- but only when our assumptions are held up to at least gentle questioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Marie&#8217;s comment above, and would expand on it by saying that, in my experience, many educators take a view similar to many clergy members: that their work would be cheapened if it were &#8220;about&#8221; money.</p>
<p>Intentionally or otherwise, most educators end up making less (or MUCH less) money than they would if they pursued careers in business, the other learned professions, etc. They know this. They are free enough from greed (or financial ambition, or however you want to put it) that it doesn&#8217;t keep them from pursuing their careers as teachers, administrators, etc. And if they happen to end up in a job that does pay them handsomely, they and their peers regard it as a special reward for their hard work &#8212; even when their supposedly princely income could be matched easily by a 28-year-old sales manager at a mid-sized company.</p>
<p>In this setting &#8212; and considering the cultural insularity of the educational profession as a whole &#8212; it&#8217;s not surprising to me that you get reactions to advertisements that are so very much at odds with the routine practice of other parts of the professional blogosphere. In that bigger setting, it&#8217;s well understood that if a blog doesn&#8217;t have ads, that&#8217;s a choice on the part of the blogger. (John Scalzi provides an example of this.) End of discussion. No moralizing.</p>
<p>My take, coming as someone who has just one finger in the pie of professional education: educators as a group will be well served to *learn* more from what you&#8217;re doing here &#8212; rather than moralize about it or react stereotypically to it.  We can ALL expand our ways of thinking about what the blogosphere means &#8212; or can mean &#8212; but only when our assumptions are held up to at least gentle questioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.katesays.org/2008/05/07/an-offering-while-i-dig-out/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is because it would make educationalists appear as if they have monetary interests and they are supposed to be dedicated to education and nothing else (conflict of interest).  I don't see a problem if they are education related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is because it would make educationalists appear as if they have monetary interests and they are supposed to be dedicated to education and nothing else (conflict of interest).  I don&#8217;t see a problem if they are education related.</p>
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